Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

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ria jongman
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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door ria jongman » 20 mar 2022, 18:16

Volgens mij Durgeloun, met een ú maar een beroerde w kan ook?
Ik ken geen plaats van die naam liggende in Gelderland

Ik heb even op internet geprobeerd, plaats in Gelderland beginnende met een D
en ze gaven o.a. De Heurne. Ligt bij Hengelo, Gelderland
kan dus ook?

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door klunder » 20 mar 2022, 20:19

Ik lees Durgelouw maar op de eerste u staat geen streepje, dus misschien eerder Dwigelouw.
Dwingeloo?

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Daan » 20 mar 2022, 20:53

Dwingeloo is Drente.

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Steve Barnhoorn » 20 mar 2022, 21:41

Assuming I have correctly read this thread, from the parish register of Gehrde, Preußen, Hannover, Germany, I found this possibility for Jurriaan Wesseling, baptized on 13 May 1714, son of Evert Wesling and Anna Statmann:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=220979

Since this is my first pass through this particular register, I am hesitant to say this is "our guy." But at a minimum, Wesselings were in this community.

One other sibling follows this Jurgen Wesseling:

Catharine Elsabein, baptized 4 Adv. (Advent?) 1715

My apologies for my delayed reply of thanks. I have been battling a stomach bug and sinus infection.

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Bericht door Egbert_ » 20 mar 2022, 22:01

It should be Gehrde, Landkreis Osnabrück, Niedersachsen, Germany (not Gehrde, Preußen, Hannover, Germany)

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Steve Barnhoorn » 20 mar 2022, 22:53

It should be Gehrde, Landkreis Osnabrück, Niedersachsen, Germany (not Gehrde, Preußen, Hannover, Germany)
Thanks.

P.S. Egbert: I was only going on how the records were filed. It looks like some wars changed things up a bit. https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Ha ... _Genealogy

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Bericht door Steve Barnhoorn » 20 mar 2022, 23:39

Burial for Lena Lammers (19 September 1749):

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Egbert_ » 21 mar 2022, 09:28

Steve Barnhoorn schreef:
20 mar 2022, 22:53
I was only going on how the records were filed. It looks like some wars changed things up a bit. https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Ha ... _Genealogy
Thanks for the clarification. Although I think the filing system of familysearch is based on a gros simplification of history. For example, untill 1803 Osnabrücker Land was a souverin area for ages.

But since there is only one town in Germany called Gehrde, it must be the one in Osnabrücker Land.

And Evert Wesling and Anna Statmann might be the wright parents. Jurgen Wesseling had a daugther and son:
Klaasje Antje and Harmen Evert

Not evidence, but very likely.

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Bericht door ria jongman » 21 mar 2022, 12:18

Jurrien has a brother named Harmen so as Egbert wrote

Jurrien and Anna were witnesses:
img 428
04-05-1750, baptims of Arie, son of Harmen Wesseling and Vrouwtje Sievens



On image 485 Familysearch
you find the marriage
Harmen Wesseling jm van Osnabrugge en Vrouwtie Sieuwes jd uijt Vriesland
29 juni 1749
Luthers trouwboek

So - migt be Evert their father - search also the baptist of Hermen

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Bericht door Steve Barnhoorn » 21 mar 2022, 17:42

On image 485 Familysearch
you find the marriage
Harmen Wesseling jm van Osnabrugge en Vrouwtie Sieuwes jd uijt Vriesland
29 juni 1749
Luthers trouwboek

So - Evert might be their father - search also the baptist of Hermen
No luck finding Harmen/Herman's baptism in the Gehrde records.

A couple of other things.

First, since we're going on naming patterns, among the children Jan Hoenderdos and Catharina Wesseling had were:

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4 M: Jurriaan HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 8 Jan 1775
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Johannes Rudolph SEGELKE and Petronella DORICK.
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
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6 M: Evert HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 9 May 1779
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witness: Maria VALK.
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse

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According to Artland Resource Collection for History [ ARCH ], transcriptie Collectie Pohlsander 030, page 14 was the following overview:

Evert Wesling, * ca 1684 Gehrde, begraven 19.2.1754 Gehrde, 70 J., zn.v. Jürgen Wessling en Trine Eilermann, 1713 Gehrde, Anna Statmann, * ca 1673, begraven 11.2.1725 Gehrde, 52 J, Kind.;/ Jürgen, ~ 13.5.1714 Gehrde./ Catharina Elsabein, ~ 4 Advent 1715 Gehrde, ┼ 10.3.1758, 43 J., begraven 12.3.1758, 27.7.1736 Gehrde, Johann Evert Thelkamp.

For more, please see here: https://arch.vortmes.nl/documents/copo-030.pdf

It's possible Harmen/Herman's baptism wasn't recorded? Or it was recorded elsewhere? Also, couldn't find Harmen/Herman in the Lidmatenboek of Haarlem.

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